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what's up everybody happy Friday we made

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that you spend your time here with me to

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everybody checked it out and you guys

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um during that and I really appreciate

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um the Senate's emerging threats and

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capabilities subcommittee held the

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of clear direction for whistleblowers

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resolution office director Shanker

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witnesses that you have thus far to us I

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with the matter but not authorized to

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discuss it publicly that arrow is asking

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whistleblowers to pay for their own

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real-time analytic process we cannot

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process is set up on the website the

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other thing that's kind of concerning is

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there's another person that's done this

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before

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but

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they are

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kind of uh press

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press conference thing Mr Dr Greer with

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his whistleblowers so I I think

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everybody should do this instead of that

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so hopefully the dod get that set up

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pretty quick because we're waiting on

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the dod for a lot of different things

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including this public safe disclosure

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um

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aspect

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well the main anomaly resolution office

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in July of last year

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though arrow is still a young office the

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spotlight on UAP in recent months

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underscores the importance of its work

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and the need for UAP to be taken

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seriously as a matter of National

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Security

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known UAP are a matter of National

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Security

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in case you were wondering that's why

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they're doing this

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important to note however

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arrow is the culmination of Decades of

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DOD intelligence community and

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congressionally directed efforts to

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successfully resolve UAP encountered

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first and foremost by U.S military

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personnel specifically Navy and Air

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arrow is a culmination of previous DOD

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UAB efforts my question is which one is

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he saying it's a culmination of efforts

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compounding out from 1969 well what's he

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saying awesome atip

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what

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and I would have asked about that it's a

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culmination of what previous DOD UAP

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Mission we cannot answer Decades of

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questions about UAP all at once but we

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must begin somewhere while I assure you

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that Arrow will follow scientific

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evidence wherever it leads I ask for

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your patience as DOD first prioritizes

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Safety and Security of our military

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personnel and installations in all

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domains

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is their number one issue so he pretty

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much just

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address the historic

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citing stuff

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by saying we can't answer all your

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questions in one day you know

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but they

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you know intend to

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after

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they get the safety stuff done

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with all the different military branches

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so I think that's uh important

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as far as expectations that they have a

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lot of work to do before they even get

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arrow is partnering with the services

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intelligence Community doe as well as

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civil partners and across the U.S

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government to tap into this resources of

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the interagency

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foreign

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I don't like a lot a lot of hands

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in the problem

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they have people from all different

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intelligence agencies and all across the

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place Department of energy who is

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supposed to be holding some of these

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secrets so there's a lot of uh hands in

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the pot here and when that happens

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things can go wrong if there is some

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deep secret or whatever you can be sure

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that whoever is holding that secret is

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spying on the program I just thought

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that was interesting that a lot of

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the UAP challenge is more an operational

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and scientific issue than it is an

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it's a scientific issue more than the

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intelligence issue which is very

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interesting because they just got done

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saying UAP are a matter of National

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Security

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so

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it's a scientific issue that's a part of

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National Security I don't know it's kind

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of just interesting and it seems a

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little

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conflicting

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p

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I want to underscore today that only a

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very small percentage of UAP reports

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display signatures that could reasonably

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be described as anomalous

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small percentage of anomalous signatures

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but half are anomalous apparently most

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without signatures so he said a couple

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different things here first he's saying

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only a small percentage show anomalous

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signatures

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but he also says that out of 650

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um

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cases that they're currently on half of

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them about

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characteristics

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so the only thing I can think of is that

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he means only a small percentage show

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actual signatures electronic signatures

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but half of them

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seem like they could have anomalous

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characteristics but they don't have

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enough data that's what I took from that

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but again it's very conflicting because

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in one spot he's saying a small

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percentage have anomalous signatures and

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when he was talking about the 650 cases

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he said about half of them

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so what's the deal

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in other words Arrow's mission is to

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turn UAP into SCP somebody else's

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problem

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sap so or SCP and the further we go on

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through the seat

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you know you'll realize that to me the

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picture becomes clear here that any

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possible disclosure won't come from

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Arrow

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that if he finds anything

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where the only explanation is

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extraterrestrial

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he's going to give it to NASA

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and if it's anomalous and winds up being

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like foreign like Chinese or something

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like that he's going to give it

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to the intelligence community

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so either way we're not going to find

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in the event sufficient scientific data

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were ever attained that a UAP

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encountered can only be explained by

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extraterrestrial origin we are committed

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to working with our interagency partners

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at Nasa to appropriately inform U.S

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as I just said

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ET Discovery goes to NASA not to the

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so apparently from there it would go to

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the public I guess is what they're

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saying but it's interesting so if he

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finds something he you know disclosure

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isn't going to work this way it's not

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going to come from a hearing from

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Kirkpatrick because if he found

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something he just told you he'd shown

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NASA

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so it wouldn't be discovered in a

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question and answer session at a public

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for those few cases that have leaked to

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the public previously and subsequently

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commented on by the U.S government I

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encourage those who hold alternative

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theories or views to submit your

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research to Credible peer-reviewed

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scientific journals arrow is working

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very hard to do the same that is how

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science works not by blog or social

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attention Midwest Corbell Travis Taylor

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G Stratton Etc you're being called out

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so he says

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basically what it sounds like to any

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anybody who's trying to make a case on

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any of these UAP things what I take it

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as is gimbal Tic Tac

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go fast maybe the pyramid video all

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those people are trying to make

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Arguments for that he's saying

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um you know science runs by peer review

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so put together your idea and have it

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peer-reviewed

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you know and that's what he's saying

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that he's going to be doing but the

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interesting thing is that we don't have

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all the freaking data men so how are we

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supposed to put something together for

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peer review when we don't have all the

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data

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it's ridiculous

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so he's trying to take a cheap shot at

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people who have their ideas and what

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they think about the different cases

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tells them to do something with peer

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review when we don't have the data

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yeah tell whoever those people were that

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took the data bricks off the uh what was

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it the Princeton

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tell those guys to to help us out so we

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can't put a peer review paper together

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because they have the data apparently

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from the Tic Tac event so

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as of this week we are tracking over a

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total of 650 cases

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now the report in January basically said

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about half of the ones at that time

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about 150 were balloon were likely

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balloon-like or something like that that

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doesn't mean they're resolved

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we've been through this Project Blue

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Book did the same thing probably or

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possibly balloon you know so they don't

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know for sure if it's a balloon

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let's just say if the object is moving

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with the Wind

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it was reported as a sphere they'll

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probably say

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it's a possible balloon

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just like Blue Book did that'll get

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written up by my team

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that then goes to a senior technical

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Advisory Group

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which is outside of all of those people

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made up of senior technical folks and

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and

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retired out of the community

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and they they essentially peer review

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what that case recommendation is

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they write their recommendations that

519
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comes back to me I review it we make a

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determination and I'll sign off one way

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or the other

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and then that will go out as the the

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so he's got two groups in ic group and

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he's got his own intelligence group in a

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scientific group they look at it he

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looks at it and then it goes to these

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retired intelligence folks

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who do a final peer review who are these

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people

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why should we trust them

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there's so many people involved here

532
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like

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just more ways for things to go to go

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not well

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so I just thought that was interesting

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who are these retired intelligence folks

537
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um given the final peer review on the

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individual UAP cases

539
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so he gets a case

540
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and just about three or four different

541
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three different groups of people are

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looking at it with a final peer review

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once we have an approved web portal to

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hang the unclassified stuff we will D

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you know we would downgrade and

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once the dod approves this is how

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information will become public so

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what he just said is

549
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that once the dod approves his little

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portal online that's where he'll put his

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so

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it's interesting that I think it seems

553
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because of that

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that takes time

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so of those over 650 you know we've

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prioritized

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about uh half of them to be of of

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so 325 cases are of

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that's a lot

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half

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of the cases

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so that's a great question part of what

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we have to do as we go through these

564
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especially the ones that show

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signatures of advanced technical

566
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capabilities is determine if there is a

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foreign Nexus

568
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that's really hard if what we observe

569
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doesn't have a Chinese or Russian flag

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on the side of it

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now

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I think it is

573
00:25:03,470 --> 00:25:01,080
um

574
00:25:08,810 --> 00:25:03,480
prudent to say

575
00:25:10,789 --> 00:25:08,820
of the of the cases that are showing

576
00:25:13,010 --> 00:25:10,799
it you know some sort of advanced

577
00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:13,020
technical signature of which we're

578
00:25:19,190 --> 00:25:15,360
talking single percentages of the entire

579
00:25:21,289 --> 00:25:19,200
population of cases we have

580
00:25:23,270 --> 00:25:21,299
um I am concerned

581
00:25:26,570 --> 00:25:23,280
about

582
00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:26,580
what that Nexus is and I have indicators

583
00:25:31,190 --> 00:25:29,039
that some are related to foreign

584
00:25:34,190 --> 00:25:31,200
capabilities

585
00:25:35,510 --> 00:25:34,200
we have to investigate that with our IC

586
00:25:38,210 --> 00:25:35,520
partners

587
00:25:40,250 --> 00:25:38,220
and as we get evidence to support that

588
00:25:44,390 --> 00:25:40,260
that gets then handed off to the

589
00:25:55,010 --> 00:25:44,400
appropriate IC agency to investigate

590
00:25:59,870 --> 00:25:57,710
a couple things first of all is

591
00:26:01,549 --> 00:25:59,880
he said it's it's really hard to detect

592
00:26:03,769 --> 00:26:01,559
things when they don't have a you know a

593
00:26:05,450 --> 00:26:03,779
Chinese or Russian flag on it so what I

594
00:26:07,970 --> 00:26:05,460
took away from that is

595
00:26:10,490 --> 00:26:07,980
so that's your problem from identifying

596
00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:10,500
things meaning you have

597
00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:13,679
clear video to tell what it is but

598
00:26:17,090 --> 00:26:16,080
there's no flag on it otherwise you

599
00:26:21,230 --> 00:26:17,100
could tell

600
00:26:22,909 --> 00:26:21,240
so let's see those clear videos

601
00:26:24,649 --> 00:26:22,919
also concerned about the small

602
00:26:28,190 --> 00:26:24,659
percentage of cases with anomalous

603
00:26:31,310 --> 00:26:28,200
signatures indicators that some not all

604
00:26:38,149 --> 00:26:31,320
of them are foreign

605
00:26:43,850 --> 00:26:40,250
he's saying he has indicators some are

606
00:26:46,789 --> 00:26:43,860
foreign these anomalous signatures

607
00:26:49,789 --> 00:26:46,799
electronic signatures so a couple of

608
00:26:52,549 --> 00:26:49,799
things that I would ask is

609
00:26:55,190 --> 00:26:52,559
you know what what are you looking at

610
00:26:57,890 --> 00:26:55,200
that's different from like Lou Elizondo

611
00:27:01,190 --> 00:26:57,900
for instance

612
00:27:02,870 --> 00:27:01,200
you know does he have extra intelligence

613
00:27:05,510 --> 00:27:02,880
that's telling them that some of this

614
00:27:07,909 --> 00:27:05,520
stuff could be foreign what's the deal

615
00:27:11,210 --> 00:27:07,919
why are there two different takes there

616
00:27:14,830 --> 00:27:11,220
what are you not seeing

617
00:27:18,769 --> 00:27:14,840
or he said some so are there some

618
00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:18,779
foreign anomalous Vehicles perhaps as

619
00:27:23,409 --> 00:27:20,640
well

620
00:27:28,130 --> 00:27:23,419
as interdimensional extra dimensional

621
00:27:32,230 --> 00:27:28,140
extra terrestrial time traveler type

622
00:27:41,330 --> 00:27:36,289
and you said there seems to be some

623
00:27:43,669 --> 00:27:41,340
indicators uh so just Josh said

624
00:27:46,090 --> 00:27:43,679
something pretty important he didn't he

625
00:27:49,070 --> 00:27:46,100
say Advanced Technic technical

626
00:27:51,590 --> 00:27:49,080
signatures not necessarily anomalous

627
00:27:56,210 --> 00:27:51,600
the wording is important yeah it is

628
00:28:01,789 --> 00:28:00,169
he did say Advanced but I then I think

629
00:28:04,850 --> 00:28:01,799
that's up to him

630
00:28:06,409 --> 00:28:04,860
to correctly categorize that for the

631
00:28:09,110 --> 00:28:06,419
audience what's the difference between

632
00:28:10,250 --> 00:28:09,120
anomalous and advanced anomalous I would

633
00:28:12,350 --> 00:28:10,260
think is something that you can't make

634
00:28:14,450 --> 00:28:12,360
sense of Advance is something you

635
00:28:15,590 --> 00:28:14,460
understand but it's just kind of beyond

636
00:28:16,970 --> 00:28:15,600
your Realm

637
00:28:18,409 --> 00:28:16,980
I don't know

638
00:28:19,669 --> 00:28:18,419
it's interesting that's a good point

639
00:28:22,610 --> 00:28:19,679
Josh

640
00:28:25,070 --> 00:28:22,620
good point for us today uh could you

641
00:28:28,730 --> 00:28:25,080
describe Potential Threat that might

642
00:28:31,010 --> 00:28:28,740
exist out there if they are foreign sure

643
00:28:32,930 --> 00:28:31,020
Nexus

644
00:28:34,810 --> 00:28:32,940
in order to do this research

645
00:28:38,930 --> 00:28:34,820
appropriately

646
00:28:40,430 --> 00:28:38,940
we have to also be cognizant of what is

647
00:28:45,190 --> 00:28:40,440
the state of the art and Development

648
00:28:51,590 --> 00:28:48,409
uh that's what ASAP did so basically

649
00:28:53,269 --> 00:28:51,600
what he's saying he's going to do is

650
00:28:55,730 --> 00:28:53,279
look at

651
00:28:57,890 --> 00:28:55,740
the technology 50 years down the road

652
00:29:00,529 --> 00:28:57,900
and what's beyond that those are exactly

653
00:29:02,810 --> 00:29:00,539
what the aseb Nerds were so that he's

654
00:29:07,310 --> 00:29:02,820
just gonna do that again apparently

655
00:29:09,169 --> 00:29:07,320
the adversary is not

656
00:29:11,330 --> 00:29:09,179
waiting

657
00:29:12,649 --> 00:29:11,340
they are advancing and they're advancing

658
00:29:14,930 --> 00:29:12,659
quickly

659
00:29:16,430 --> 00:29:14,940
if I were to put on some of my old hats

660
00:29:20,149 --> 00:29:16,440
I would tell you

661
00:29:23,210 --> 00:29:20,159
they are less risk-averse at technical

662
00:29:25,070 --> 00:29:23,220
advancement than we are

663
00:29:27,110 --> 00:29:25,080
right they are just willing to try

664
00:29:29,090 --> 00:29:27,120
things and see if it works

665
00:29:31,909 --> 00:29:29,100
are there capabilities that could be

666
00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:31,919
employed against us in both an ISR and a

667
00:29:36,590 --> 00:29:34,320
weapons fashion absolutely

668
00:29:39,430 --> 00:29:36,600
do I have evidence that they're doing it

669
00:29:43,789 --> 00:29:39,440
in these cases

670
00:29:45,649 --> 00:29:43,799
no but I have concerning indicators

671
00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:45,659
what does that mean concerning

672
00:29:50,330 --> 00:29:48,000
indicators

673
00:29:52,970 --> 00:29:50,340
it's interesting that he kind of tells

674
00:29:55,370 --> 00:29:52,980
you how the foreign actors kind of work

675
00:29:58,010 --> 00:29:55,380
as well you know so

676
00:30:00,950 --> 00:29:58,020
they're a little more cowboyish about

677
00:30:04,130 --> 00:30:00,960
their experiments so if they did try

678
00:30:07,490 --> 00:30:04,140
something some weird technology

679
00:30:10,370 --> 00:30:07,500
they could just you know try it against

680
00:30:13,010 --> 00:30:10,380
being safe apparently

681
00:30:13,020 --> 00:30:15,950
so

682
00:30:20,090 --> 00:30:17,570
you know my relationship with the

683
00:30:22,130 --> 00:30:20,100
commands are are very good I just came

684
00:30:23,930 --> 00:30:22,140
back from uh sitting down with with

685
00:30:26,029 --> 00:30:23,940
General van hurk and all the all the J

686
00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:26,039
staff out at North com a couple weeks

687
00:30:30,889 --> 00:30:28,320
ago talking through exactly what we need

688
00:30:34,130 --> 00:30:30,899
to do to help them get their arms around

689
00:30:39,649 --> 00:30:36,950
he needs to help NORAD get their arms

690
00:30:42,409 --> 00:30:39,659
around this so that sounds like a

691
00:30:45,310 --> 00:30:42,419
problem to me I think it's statements

692
00:30:48,889 --> 00:30:45,320
like this that if anybody had any doubt

693
00:30:50,750 --> 00:30:48,899
the seriousness of of this and why it's

694
00:30:52,970 --> 00:30:50,760
happening I think that should be kind of

695
00:30:55,549 --> 00:30:52,980
put to bed right now if this Kirkpatrick

696
00:30:58,490 --> 00:30:55,559
is going to NORAD and helping them get

697
00:30:59,990 --> 00:30:58,500
their arms around this which means a

698
00:31:03,049 --> 00:31:00,000
problem

699
00:31:05,570 --> 00:31:03,059
um it's serious so whether you're a

700
00:31:08,029 --> 00:31:05,580
debunker or not I think there is

701
00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:08,039
something real going on and I think we

702
00:31:12,289 --> 00:31:10,559
got that through this hearing whether

703
00:31:15,889 --> 00:31:12,299
it's foreign

704
00:31:18,409 --> 00:31:15,899
or not is another question or if there's

705
00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:18,419
both but it's clear there is a serious

706
00:31:23,810 --> 00:31:21,120
issue so I think everybody should be on

707
00:31:26,450 --> 00:31:23,820
board with this no matter where you

708
00:31:30,649 --> 00:31:28,730
um are outside of our DOD and IC

709
00:31:31,870 --> 00:31:30,659
Partners to extend our collection

710
00:31:34,850 --> 00:31:31,880
posture

711
00:31:36,950 --> 00:31:34,860
targeted at some of these key areas that

712
00:31:39,830 --> 00:31:36,960
you saw on that heat map

713
00:31:43,250 --> 00:31:39,840
that have a lot of activity so that we

714
00:31:45,830 --> 00:31:43,260
can turn on extra collection when an

715
00:31:47,590 --> 00:31:45,840
operator sees something so part of this

716
00:31:50,870 --> 00:31:47,600
is generating

717
00:31:53,630 --> 00:31:50,880
as a response function in what we call a

718
00:31:55,669 --> 00:31:53,640
tactic technique and procedure for an

719
00:31:57,830 --> 00:31:55,679
operator when he sees something calls

720
00:32:00,169 --> 00:31:57,840
back to the operations floor they can

721
00:32:02,450 --> 00:32:00,179
turn on additional collection what does

722
00:32:04,310 --> 00:32:02,460
that collection look like how do I bring

723
00:32:07,330 --> 00:32:04,320
all that together so I can get more data

724
00:32:10,130 --> 00:32:07,340
on what is that thing

725
00:32:11,750 --> 00:32:10,140
what he's saying there is he wants to

726
00:32:13,730 --> 00:32:11,760
have the ability to have private

727
00:32:16,430 --> 00:32:13,740
contractors activate more data

728
00:32:18,710 --> 00:32:16,440
collection when a sighting comes in

729
00:32:21,409 --> 00:32:18,720
that's what he's saying so he wants to

730
00:32:23,710 --> 00:32:21,419
have the ability when a pilot or whoever

731
00:32:27,769 --> 00:32:23,720
Ryan Graves or whoever reports something

732
00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:27,779
that this other contractor can or

733
00:32:35,870 --> 00:32:31,200
private entity whatever can

734
00:32:38,470 --> 00:32:35,880
activate their other signature finding

735
00:32:40,070 --> 00:32:38,480
technology

736
00:32:42,529 --> 00:32:40,080
foreign

737
00:32:45,049 --> 00:32:42,539
do you need any authorities that you

738
00:32:46,610 --> 00:32:45,059
don't have to uh get get the data there

739
00:32:48,409 --> 00:32:46,620
are some authorities that we need we

740
00:32:50,570 --> 00:32:48,419
currently are operating under title 10

741
00:32:52,549 --> 00:32:50,580
authorities but we have

742
00:32:54,889 --> 00:32:52,559
um you know good relationships across

743
00:32:57,010 --> 00:32:54,899
the other agencies but having additional

744
00:32:58,490 --> 00:32:57,020
authorities for collection tasking

745
00:33:00,230 --> 00:32:58,500
counterintelligence that's something

746
00:33:02,930 --> 00:33:00,240
those are all things that would be

747
00:33:07,370 --> 00:33:04,850
uh quick before I go on to this from

748
00:33:08,990 --> 00:33:07,380
Andres they give Trenton Russia way too

749
00:33:10,549 --> 00:33:09,000
much credit career of stealing American

750
00:33:11,510 --> 00:33:10,559
Tech and suddenly they have advanced

751
00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:11,520
Tech

752
00:33:18,350 --> 00:33:15,600
I wouldn't be so sure only because

753
00:33:19,909 --> 00:33:18,360
this is a reoccurring theme is that

754
00:33:22,789 --> 00:33:19,919
China's advancing

755
00:33:24,289 --> 00:33:22,799
so Russia I don't know but uh that

756
00:33:26,389 --> 00:33:24,299
China's advancing of course yeah they

757
00:33:28,130 --> 00:33:26,399
stole stuff from us or whatever but

758
00:33:31,310 --> 00:33:28,140
they're apparently like leading in

759
00:33:33,409 --> 00:33:31,320
things like AI out of like 34 to 36

760
00:33:37,549 --> 00:33:33,419
important emerging Technologies they're

761
00:33:39,789 --> 00:33:37,559
leading the US in a lot of those so

762
00:33:43,909 --> 00:33:39,799
I'm not sure that that's so true anymore

763
00:33:48,350 --> 00:33:43,919
maybe about Russia it is but China seems

764
00:33:52,990 --> 00:33:49,029
um

765
00:33:58,130 --> 00:33:56,450
more Authority so he's I think it was

766
00:33:59,750 --> 00:33:58,140
title 10 or whatever and he needs to be

767
00:34:01,789 --> 00:33:59,760
title 50 I don't know I don't get into

768
00:34:03,230 --> 00:34:01,799
the weeds with that stuff but he doesn't

769
00:34:05,870 --> 00:34:03,240
have enough authority to do what he

770
00:34:07,789 --> 00:34:05,880
needs to do so

771
00:34:10,250 --> 00:34:07,799
um and that's basically collection

772
00:34:11,990 --> 00:34:10,260
tasking so what he would be doing I'm

773
00:34:15,109 --> 00:34:12,000
assuming is telling someone like I don't

774
00:34:17,290 --> 00:34:15,119
know nro hey can you do this with your

775
00:34:19,070 --> 00:34:17,300
satellites to try to pick up UAP

776
00:34:20,450 --> 00:34:19,080
counterintelligence I'm not sure what he

777
00:34:22,129 --> 00:34:20,460
would do with that counterintelligence

778
00:34:24,470 --> 00:34:22,139
always seems to be involved with UAP

779
00:34:26,149 --> 00:34:24,480
even going back to the the Blue Book

780
00:34:29,930 --> 00:34:26,159
days I would assume maybe

781
00:34:31,909 --> 00:34:29,940
counterintelligence would be more for

782
00:34:33,470 --> 00:34:31,919
um you know foreign stuff

783
00:34:35,629 --> 00:34:33,480
you know helping out to see what's

784
00:34:37,849 --> 00:34:35,639
foreign what isn't because we got to

785
00:34:38,810 --> 00:34:37,859
keep in mind even if they don't identify

786
00:34:43,490 --> 00:34:38,820
something

787
00:34:45,770 --> 00:34:43,500
whether it's a stupid balloon or a drone

788
00:34:47,389 --> 00:34:45,780
or whatever so that unfortunately until

789
00:34:50,089 --> 00:34:47,399
it gets identified is going to be in the

790
00:34:51,950 --> 00:34:50,099
mix with all this stuff

791
00:34:56,089 --> 00:34:51,960
but he needs more Authority he doesn't

792
00:35:04,910 --> 00:34:59,589
and probably by Design so USD ins and

793
00:35:05,630 --> 00:35:04,920
the uh I I currently report to USD ins

794
00:35:08,990 --> 00:35:05,640
um

795
00:35:09,829 --> 00:35:09,000
until they come up with the the plan for

796
00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:09,839
how they're going to implement

797
00:35:19,490 --> 00:35:16,310
DOD and dni are working through that now

798
00:35:24,310 --> 00:35:19,500
I'd have to refer you back to USD ins on

799
00:35:30,410 --> 00:35:27,470
officially passed legislation being

800
00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:30,420
stonewalled by DOD I think I counted

801
00:35:36,410 --> 00:35:32,640
like four different things that are

802
00:35:38,410 --> 00:35:36,420
waiting on other people DOD to do The

803
00:35:41,750 --> 00:35:38,420
Whistleblower thing

804
00:35:44,329 --> 00:35:41,760
approval of a public

805
00:35:47,030 --> 00:35:44,339
engagements

806
00:35:49,609 --> 00:35:47,040
um and a couple other things so the dod

807
00:35:51,470 --> 00:35:49,619
is actively four months

808
00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:51,480
you know

809
00:35:56,329 --> 00:35:53,760
at least

810
00:35:58,550 --> 00:35:56,339
and that they're not

811
00:35:59,990 --> 00:35:58,560
they're not implementing the law the

812
00:36:05,450 --> 00:36:00,000
Department of Defense is not

813
00:36:09,890 --> 00:36:07,849
so that's about it

814
00:36:10,690 --> 00:36:09,900
Congress also set up a process whereby

815
00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:10,700
people

816
00:36:14,750 --> 00:36:13,200
subject to non-disclosure agreements

817
00:36:16,010 --> 00:36:14,760
preventing them from disclosing what

818
00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:16,020
they may have witnessed or participated

819
00:36:19,910 --> 00:36:18,480
in could tell you what they know that

820
00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:19,920
risk of Retribution from the or

821
00:36:24,109 --> 00:36:22,560
violation of their ndas have you

822
00:36:25,730 --> 00:36:24,119
submitted a public-facing website

823
00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:25,740
product for approval to your superiors

824
00:36:32,030 --> 00:36:28,320
and how long has it been under review

825
00:36:35,990 --> 00:36:32,040
I have we submitted the first version of

826
00:36:39,950 --> 00:36:38,210
and do you have an estimate from them

827
00:36:43,250 --> 00:36:39,960
when they will respond and when you'll

828
00:36:45,530 --> 00:36:43,260
have feedback on that no no I don't okay

829
00:36:47,690 --> 00:36:45,540
no

830
00:36:50,810 --> 00:36:47,700
doesn't even have

831
00:36:53,270 --> 00:36:50,820
any feedback for when the dod would be

832
00:36:56,630 --> 00:36:53,280
able to

833
00:37:01,849 --> 00:36:59,270
so who's who's who is the dod

834
00:37:03,530 --> 00:37:01,859
accountable to

835
00:37:06,010 --> 00:37:03,540
because they're the ones holding all

836
00:37:09,770 --> 00:37:07,970
so who are they accountable to

837
00:37:11,810 --> 00:37:09,780
apparently nobody

838
00:37:13,550 --> 00:37:11,820
so

839
00:37:16,310 --> 00:37:13,560
when do you expect that you will

840
00:37:16,970 --> 00:37:16,320
establish a public-facing discoverable

841
00:37:19,250 --> 00:37:16,980
um

842
00:37:24,050 --> 00:37:19,260
an access portal for people to use to

843
00:37:28,069 --> 00:37:26,510
she tries to ask again you just

844
00:37:30,109 --> 00:37:28,079
completely

845
00:37:34,970 --> 00:37:30,119
doesn't answer and doesn't even

846
00:37:40,430 --> 00:37:38,390
so I would like to First say thank you

847
00:37:43,130 --> 00:37:40,440
all very much for

848
00:37:45,470 --> 00:37:43,140
um you know that's not what we asked

849
00:37:47,210 --> 00:37:45,480
we asked when The Whistleblower thing

850
00:37:50,690 --> 00:37:47,220
was going to be ready to go

851
00:37:51,650 --> 00:37:50,700
and then he goes with his well first let

852
00:37:53,510 --> 00:37:51,660
me

853
00:37:56,150 --> 00:37:53,520
correctly

854
00:37:59,329 --> 00:37:56,160
present

855
00:38:01,430 --> 00:37:59,339
my answer I'm referring the witnesses

856
00:38:03,890 --> 00:38:01,440
that you have thus far to us I

857
00:38:06,349 --> 00:38:03,900
appreciate that we've brought in nearly

858
00:38:08,450 --> 00:38:06,359
two dozen so far it's been it's been

859
00:38:10,370 --> 00:38:08,460
very uh helpful I'd ask that you

860
00:38:11,770 --> 00:38:10,380
continue to do that until we have an

861
00:38:14,990 --> 00:38:11,780
approved plan

862
00:38:18,109 --> 00:38:15,000
we have a multi-phased approach for

863
00:38:20,329 --> 00:38:18,119
doing that that we've been uh

864
00:38:22,430 --> 00:38:20,339
socializing I have submitted for

865
00:38:23,950 --> 00:38:22,440
approval

866
00:38:26,450 --> 00:38:23,960
sometime

867
00:38:28,849 --> 00:38:26,460
and once that happens then we should be

868
00:38:31,370 --> 00:38:28,859
able to push all that out and get get

869
00:38:33,170 --> 00:38:31,380
this a little more automated great

870
00:38:36,170 --> 00:38:33,180
um what I would ask though is as you all

871
00:38:38,390 --> 00:38:36,180
continue to refer to us and refer

872
00:38:41,870 --> 00:38:38,400
witnesses to us I'd appreciate if you do

873
00:38:43,730 --> 00:38:41,880
that please try to prioritize the ones

874
00:38:47,690 --> 00:38:43,740
that you want to do because we do have a

875
00:38:49,630 --> 00:38:47,700
small research staff dealing with that

876
00:38:52,790 --> 00:38:49,640
thanks

877
00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:52,800
he wants more witnesses from Congress so

878
00:38:56,089 --> 00:38:54,480
what does that tell me that tells me

879
00:38:57,829 --> 00:38:56,099
that they're of some value he didn't

880
00:39:00,410 --> 00:38:57,839
have to say that

881
00:39:02,089 --> 00:39:00,420
you know he didn't have to say thank you

882
00:39:03,890 --> 00:39:02,099
for the witnesses or keep sending him to

883
00:39:06,290 --> 00:39:03,900
me or whatever he didn't have to say any

884
00:39:08,630 --> 00:39:06,300
of that but he did so out of the two

885
00:39:10,569 --> 00:39:08,640
dozen Witnesses I'm guessing that he's

886
00:39:12,770 --> 00:39:10,579
gotten some things of value

887
00:39:13,910 --> 00:39:12,780
and we know some of the people who have

888
00:39:16,010 --> 00:39:13,920
come to him

889
00:39:19,069 --> 00:39:16,020
we don't know all of them

890
00:39:20,690 --> 00:39:19,079
so it'd be really great to know who

891
00:39:24,910 --> 00:39:20,700
is helping

892
00:39:31,089 --> 00:39:28,310
so we have a uh

893
00:39:33,530 --> 00:39:31,099
a number of public engagement

894
00:39:36,589 --> 00:39:33,540
recommendations according to our

895
00:39:38,870 --> 00:39:36,599
strategic plan all of those have been

896
00:39:42,950 --> 00:39:38,880
submitted for approval they have to be

897
00:39:46,970 --> 00:39:42,960
approved by usdins we are waiting for

898
00:39:52,670 --> 00:39:49,010
Here We Go Again public engagements

899
00:39:55,609 --> 00:39:52,680
probably mean using Twitter more for

900
00:39:57,410 --> 00:39:55,619
starters and again we're waiting on dod

901
00:39:59,390 --> 00:39:57,420
you notice that Arrow has had a Twitter

902
00:40:01,790 --> 00:39:59,400
for a long time and as far as their

903
00:40:04,250 --> 00:40:01,800
public engagement plans they're still

904
00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:04,260
waiting on the dod so whenever the dod

905
00:40:10,490 --> 00:40:07,200
wakes up from their nap apparently

906
00:40:11,210 --> 00:40:10,500
um public engagements might begin to

907
00:40:14,450 --> 00:40:11,220
happen

908
00:40:17,390 --> 00:40:14,460
I'm assuming that social media might be

909
00:40:22,730 --> 00:40:21,230
here so the vision is at one point at

910
00:40:24,950 --> 00:40:22,740
some point in the future

911
00:40:27,589 --> 00:40:24,960
you should not need an arrow

912
00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:27,599
if I'm successful in what I'm doing we

913
00:40:32,450 --> 00:40:29,760
should be able to normalize everything

914
00:40:35,390 --> 00:40:32,460
that we're doing into existing processes

915
00:40:37,130 --> 00:40:35,400
functions agencies and organizations and

916
00:40:39,710 --> 00:40:37,140
make that part of their mission and

917
00:40:43,550 --> 00:40:39,720
their role right now the niche that we

918
00:40:46,130 --> 00:40:43,560
form is really going after the unknowns

919
00:40:49,730 --> 00:40:46,140
if you I think you articulated it early

920
00:40:51,770 --> 00:40:49,740
on this is a Hunt mission for what might

921
00:40:56,089 --> 00:40:51,780
somebody be doing in our backyard that

922
00:40:59,569 --> 00:40:58,490
right and so

923
00:41:03,650 --> 00:40:59,579
um

924
00:41:09,430 --> 00:41:05,710
of public engagement

925
00:41:14,870 --> 00:41:12,230
all of those have been submitted for

926
00:41:16,130 --> 00:41:14,880
approval they have to be approved by USD

927
00:41:18,770 --> 00:41:16,140
ins

928
00:41:20,270 --> 00:41:18,780
we are waiting for approval to go do

929
00:41:22,490 --> 00:41:20,280
that okay

930
00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:22,500
so again basically like this guy's got

931
00:41:26,750 --> 00:41:24,960
his ducks and his religion is he's got

932
00:41:29,390 --> 00:41:26,760
his ducks in a row and he's waiting on

933
00:41:30,470 --> 00:41:29,400
the dod at one point at some point in

934
00:41:33,290 --> 00:41:30,480
the future

935
00:41:35,450 --> 00:41:33,300
you should not need an arrow if I'm

936
00:41:37,790 --> 00:41:35,460
successful in what I'm doing we should

937
00:41:40,069 --> 00:41:37,800
be able to normalize everything that

938
00:41:43,069 --> 00:41:40,079
we're doing into existing processes

939
00:41:44,810 --> 00:41:43,079
functions agencies and organizations and

940
00:41:47,390 --> 00:41:44,820
make that part of their mission and

941
00:41:51,230 --> 00:41:47,400
their role right now the niche that we

942
00:41:53,810 --> 00:41:51,240
form is really going after the unknowns

943
00:41:56,690 --> 00:41:53,820
if you I think you articulated it early

944
00:41:58,849 --> 00:41:56,700
on this is a Hunt mission for

945
00:42:01,569 --> 00:41:58,859
what might somebody be doing in our

946
00:42:05,210 --> 00:42:01,579
backyard that we don't know about

947
00:42:07,490 --> 00:42:05,220
interesting hey uh he wants to develop

948
00:42:09,589 --> 00:42:07,500
protocols and split Hunt mission for the

949
00:42:12,109 --> 00:42:09,599
unknown so basically what he's saying is

950
00:42:15,170 --> 00:42:12,119
he wants to develop a process and a

951
00:42:17,870 --> 00:42:15,180
protocol that all the military branches

952
00:42:20,810 --> 00:42:17,880
or intelligence branches or agencies can

953
00:42:23,150 --> 00:42:20,820
use so that Arrow doesn't need to be in

954
00:42:26,750 --> 00:42:23,160
existence anymore

955
00:42:28,670 --> 00:42:26,760
which is really interesting because

956
00:42:30,589 --> 00:42:28,680
I don't know

957
00:42:33,650 --> 00:42:30,599
if something's unknown how do you really

958
00:42:35,450 --> 00:42:33,660
how do you work with that so I don't

959
00:42:37,490 --> 00:42:35,460
know but it's a Hunt mission and what's

960
00:42:40,370 --> 00:42:37,500
extremely clear through it throughout

961
00:42:42,650 --> 00:42:40,380
this uh hearing as well is that they are

962
00:42:44,990 --> 00:42:42,660
in fact just dealing with the anomalous

963
00:42:45,829 --> 00:42:45,000
you know so

964
00:42:47,329 --> 00:42:45,839
um

965
00:42:49,130 --> 00:42:47,339
that's good

966
00:42:50,569 --> 00:42:49,140
you know so we won't get bogged down

967
00:42:51,890 --> 00:42:50,579
with a lot of balloons drones and all

968
00:42:53,810 --> 00:42:51,900
that kind of stuff and he'll be just

969
00:42:56,030 --> 00:42:53,820
trying to work on you know anomalous

970
00:42:58,550 --> 00:42:56,040
things

971
00:43:02,150 --> 00:42:58,560
right and so as arrow is developing and

972
00:43:05,510 --> 00:43:02,160
implementing its science plan it has to

973
00:43:07,970 --> 00:43:05,520
do so grounded in a solid foundation of

974
00:43:10,190 --> 00:43:07,980
scientific theory across the entire

975
00:43:13,490 --> 00:43:10,200
range of hypotheses

976
00:43:15,829 --> 00:43:13,500
that have been presented for what UAP

977
00:43:19,849 --> 00:43:15,839
are

978
00:43:21,950 --> 00:43:19,859
that range spans adversary breakthrough

979
00:43:24,589 --> 00:43:21,960
technology on one hand

980
00:43:26,690 --> 00:43:24,599
known objects and phenomena in the

981
00:43:29,450 --> 00:43:26,700
middle all the way to the extreme

982
00:43:33,829 --> 00:43:29,460
theories of extraterrestrials

983
00:43:35,630 --> 00:43:33,839
all of that has physics-based signatures

984
00:43:38,750 --> 00:43:35,640
associated with it whether it's

985
00:43:41,270 --> 00:43:38,760
theoretical from the academic community

986
00:43:42,530 --> 00:43:41,280
known from things like Hypersonic

987
00:43:43,930 --> 00:43:42,540
weapons

988
00:43:46,550 --> 00:43:43,940
or

989
00:43:51,829 --> 00:43:46,560
adversary breakthrough Technologies as

990
00:43:56,510 --> 00:43:54,349
his paper with Avi was about imaginary

991
00:44:00,190 --> 00:43:56,520
signatures of an ET craft so basically

992
00:44:02,809 --> 00:44:00,200
what he's trying to say there is

993
00:44:06,050 --> 00:44:02,819
what are you saying more the less is

994
00:44:08,390 --> 00:44:06,060
what he did with the Avi was try to come

995
00:44:10,069 --> 00:44:08,400
up with signatures or what it would look

996
00:44:11,690 --> 00:44:10,079
like if

997
00:44:15,650 --> 00:44:11,700
um some of these fears really probably

998
00:44:17,030 --> 00:44:15,660
basically were E.T uh craft

999
00:44:18,650 --> 00:44:17,040
so

1000
00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:18,660
if people are wondering a little bit I

1001
00:44:24,589 --> 00:44:22,800
think he kind of uh explained that paper

1002
00:44:27,950 --> 00:44:24,599
all that

1003
00:44:31,390 --> 00:44:27,960
where NASA comes in and and the the

1004
00:44:34,609 --> 00:44:31,400
study that they're doing which I'm

1005
00:44:39,950 --> 00:44:34,619
supporting is

1006
00:44:42,829 --> 00:44:39,960
really looking at the unclassified data

1007
00:44:45,829 --> 00:44:42,839
sources that might be used to augment

1008
00:44:47,870 --> 00:44:45,839
our classified data sources to

1009
00:44:50,210 --> 00:44:47,880
understand if there's a signature there

1010
00:44:53,290 --> 00:44:50,220
we can pull on so very similar to The

1011
00:44:56,030 --> 00:44:53,300
Radars but

1012
00:44:58,370 --> 00:44:56,040
civil capabilities so for example we

1013
00:45:01,069 --> 00:44:58,380
have a lot of climate science satellites

1014
00:45:04,490 --> 00:45:01,079
for example that look at Earth

1015
00:45:07,430 --> 00:45:04,500
lots of them how many of those

1016
00:45:11,030 --> 00:45:07,440
is the data valuable

1017
00:45:14,569 --> 00:45:11,040
in seeing these kinds of objects

1018
00:45:17,030 --> 00:45:14,579
foreign so that size of the objects

1019
00:45:19,010 --> 00:45:17,040
we're looking for are tip

1020
00:45:23,270 --> 00:45:19,020
interesting you mentioned that system

1021
00:45:24,530 --> 00:45:23,280
NASA is there to give unclassified kind

1022
00:45:27,770 --> 00:45:24,540
of ideas

1023
00:45:29,089 --> 00:45:27,780
for where to look for UAP which is

1024
00:45:32,030 --> 00:45:29,099
I don't know

1025
00:45:33,230 --> 00:45:32,040
kind of interesting that we keep kind of

1026
00:45:35,349 --> 00:45:33,240
um

1027
00:45:38,270 --> 00:45:35,359
getting around the bush with a

1028
00:45:41,870 --> 00:45:38,280
classification typically reported to be

1029
00:45:45,650 --> 00:45:43,790
this was kind of weird looking for

1030
00:45:47,750 --> 00:45:45,660
objects that are typically one to four

1031
00:45:49,490 --> 00:45:47,760
meters so why is that weird to me it's

1032
00:45:52,250 --> 00:45:49,500
weird to me because

1033
00:45:55,130 --> 00:45:52,260
if we're connecting any of this stuff to

1034
00:45:57,950 --> 00:45:55,140
the past past cases I'm not saying we

1035
00:46:00,309 --> 00:45:57,960
should or shouldn't I'm just saying

1036
00:46:03,950 --> 00:46:00,319
um if you study past cases

1037
00:46:06,349 --> 00:46:03,960
these things aren't one to four meters

1038
00:46:08,150 --> 00:46:06,359
you know so and I thought that when I

1039
00:46:10,730 --> 00:46:08,160
saw some of the Navy videos and now we

1040
00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:10,740
have like this orb stuff like these UFOs

1041
00:46:14,990 --> 00:46:13,200
have become a lot smaller

1042
00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:15,000
than they used to be

1043
00:46:19,970 --> 00:46:18,240
so that's uh extremely interesting to me

1044
00:46:21,410 --> 00:46:19,980
what does that mean

1045
00:46:24,010 --> 00:46:21,420
I don't know

1046
00:46:29,930 --> 00:46:24,020
but there's a difference there between

1047
00:46:36,410 --> 00:46:32,150
so that's about it that's our recap as

1048
00:46:41,089 --> 00:46:36,420
far as that goes and then we also have

1049
00:46:48,050 --> 00:46:44,210
which I found pretty interesting so we

1050
00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:48,060
have round atypical orientation so this

1051
00:46:53,329 --> 00:46:49,920
is like the typically reported UAP

1052
00:46:55,970 --> 00:46:53,339
characteristics from 96 to 2003 what I

1053
00:46:59,569 --> 00:46:55,980
would really like is that data set where

1054
00:47:01,430 --> 00:46:59,579
are those cases what cases are they

1055
00:47:02,990 --> 00:47:01,440
you know I would really love to know

1056
00:47:05,569 --> 00:47:03,000
that

1057
00:47:08,569 --> 00:47:05,579
um because we may disagree we found with

1058
00:47:11,089 --> 00:47:08,579
air force uh Blue Book stuff like there

1059
00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:11,099
are plenty disagreements on cases so I

1060
00:47:14,750 --> 00:47:12,480
don't know it would just be great to

1061
00:47:16,670 --> 00:47:14,760
know this performance altitude 10 to 30k

1062
00:47:18,170 --> 00:47:16,680
so that's in commercial airspace so

1063
00:47:20,589 --> 00:47:18,180
that's one reason they probably think

1064
00:47:23,210 --> 00:47:20,599
this is a national security issue

1065
00:47:25,010 --> 00:47:23,220
stationery to Mach 2. I'd like to know a

1066
00:47:27,470 --> 00:47:25,020
little bit more about that does it go

1067
00:47:30,109 --> 00:47:27,480
from stationary to Mach 2

1068
00:47:34,730 --> 00:47:30,119
like it's sitting there and then it goes

1069
00:47:36,410 --> 00:47:34,740
to Mach 2. or are these just variables

1070
00:47:38,930 --> 00:47:36,420
in what you've seen you've seen things

1071
00:47:41,270 --> 00:47:38,940
that are stationary but you've also seen

1072
00:47:42,170 --> 00:47:41,280
other things go muck too I'd love to

1073
00:47:45,470 --> 00:47:42,180
know

1074
00:47:48,109 --> 00:47:45,480
are those the same or different

1075
00:47:50,990 --> 00:47:48,119
no thermal exhaust detected yeah we know

1076
00:47:52,910 --> 00:47:51,000
that that's an observable

1077
00:47:55,550 --> 00:47:52,920
um intermittent so we have this radar

1078
00:47:57,589 --> 00:47:55,560
and radio things the signatures I would

1079
00:47:59,650 --> 00:47:57,599
love to hear from some smarter people as

1080
00:48:03,050 --> 00:47:59,660
far as what we can take away from this

1081
00:48:05,150 --> 00:48:03,060
because I'm not really sure

1082
00:48:07,010 --> 00:48:05,160
thermal intermittent shortwave infrared

1083
00:48:08,750 --> 00:48:07,020
medium wave infrared so what does that

1084
00:48:11,210 --> 00:48:08,760
mean if those are signatures that are

1085
00:48:14,210 --> 00:48:11,220
being picked up I would like to know

1086
00:48:15,829 --> 00:48:14,220
what we can take away from that and he

1087
00:48:17,930 --> 00:48:15,839
didn't explain any of that as far as

1088
00:48:21,470 --> 00:48:17,940
what that means and

1089
00:48:25,609 --> 00:48:23,630
because if I don't know what that means

1090
00:48:27,890 --> 00:48:25,619
that probably a lot of other people

1091
00:48:29,630 --> 00:48:27,900
don't including the Congress people

1092
00:48:31,430 --> 00:48:29,640
and that could be why they didn't ask if

1093
00:48:32,870 --> 00:48:31,440
the reported UAP morphology is

1094
00:48:37,010 --> 00:48:32,880
interesting

1095
00:48:39,650 --> 00:48:37,020
orb round sphere 52 percent

1096
00:48:42,050 --> 00:48:39,660
it's interesting that he put orb in

1097
00:48:44,990 --> 00:48:42,060
there instead of just round sphere

1098
00:48:50,150 --> 00:48:47,450
um why did he put the word orb in there

1099
00:48:52,550 --> 00:48:50,160
I don't know but

1100
00:48:56,530 --> 00:48:52,560
half of them are orb and round

1101
00:49:01,609 --> 00:48:59,510
stationery to Mark II I think this is

1102
00:49:05,690 --> 00:49:01,619
what we're looking at fellas either it's

1103
00:49:07,250 --> 00:49:05,700
foreign or not

1104
00:49:09,770 --> 00:49:07,260
but I don't know but I think we're

1105
00:49:11,870 --> 00:49:09,780
getting a little clear picture possibly

1106
00:49:14,870 --> 00:49:11,880
of the things that are really flying

1107
00:49:17,630 --> 00:49:14,880
around which is orb round sphere or

1108
00:49:21,470 --> 00:49:17,640
brown sphere one to four meters

1109
00:49:23,150 --> 00:49:21,480
stationary to Mach 2 no exhaust

1110
00:49:25,790 --> 00:49:23,160
and then we also kind of have the hot

1111
00:49:28,010 --> 00:49:25,800
spots here but I don't know why he calls

1112
00:49:29,809 --> 00:49:28,020
them hot spots because he also said that

1113
00:49:36,710 --> 00:49:29,819
there's sensor bias

1114
00:49:39,950 --> 00:49:37,800
so

1115
00:49:42,530 --> 00:49:39,960
[Music]

1116
00:49:44,210 --> 00:49:42,540
yeah so that's it for that we're also

1117
00:49:47,089 --> 00:49:44,220
going to look at

1118
00:49:48,170 --> 00:49:47,099
the that's a good question I don't I

1119
00:49:50,030 --> 00:49:48,180
don't know

1120
00:49:52,130 --> 00:49:50,040
you know because balloon's not on there

1121
00:49:53,450 --> 00:49:52,140
so this is morphology so these are just

1122
00:49:56,270 --> 00:49:53,460
shapes

1123
00:49:58,309 --> 00:49:56,280
you know so I'm guessing

1124
00:49:59,990 --> 00:49:58,319
it doesn't matter what it actually is

1125
00:50:03,650 --> 00:50:00,000
you know

1126
00:50:07,550 --> 00:50:04,609
um

1127
00:50:09,530 --> 00:50:07,560
okay so and with this I should say that

1128
00:50:11,210 --> 00:50:09,540
it's good that there's some transparency

1129
00:50:14,210 --> 00:50:11,220
I mean maybe you're not getting the

1130
00:50:16,130 --> 00:50:14,220
answers you want to get

1131
00:50:18,770 --> 00:50:16,140
maybe we don't have all the information

1132
00:50:23,030 --> 00:50:18,780
that went into this report and I agree

1133
00:50:29,270 --> 00:50:27,290
we are getting some information here so

1134
00:50:30,710 --> 00:50:29,280
hopefully we that we can just keep that

1135
00:50:32,329 --> 00:50:30,720
train rolling and get some more

1136
00:50:35,089 --> 00:50:32,339
information

1137
00:50:37,130 --> 00:50:35,099
so that's what I got from that

1138
00:50:39,470 --> 00:50:37,140
um at this point

1139
00:50:41,450 --> 00:50:39,480
I am going to take

1140
00:50:43,069 --> 00:50:41,460
one of my

1141
00:50:45,230 --> 00:50:43,079
famous

1142
00:50:47,750 --> 00:50:45,240
talking it breaks

1143
00:50:52,010 --> 00:50:47,760
and while we do that I'm gonna cue you

1144
00:50:57,650 --> 00:50:52,020
in with an old conversation with the Mr

1145
00:51:15,710 --> 00:51:00,530
so you can check that out

1146
00:51:20,390 --> 00:51:17,930
good evening tonight we go after a

1147
00:51:22,549 --> 00:51:20,400
fantastic story the story that flying

1148
00:51:25,069 --> 00:51:22,559
saucers from other worlds are visiting

1149
00:51:26,870 --> 00:51:25,079
our planet just as we are exploring

1150
00:51:28,069 --> 00:51:26,880
outer space with our own rocket

1151
00:51:30,230 --> 00:51:28,079
satellite

1152
00:51:32,630 --> 00:51:30,240
Our Guest is former Marine Air Corps

1153
00:51:34,010 --> 00:51:32,640
Major Donald Keyhole who has the

1154
00:51:36,230 --> 00:51:34,020
supportive scores of prominent

1155
00:51:38,750 --> 00:51:36,240
businessmen military men and some

1156
00:51:42,049 --> 00:51:38,760
scientists in his campaign to prove that

1157
00:51:43,849 --> 00:51:42,059
flying saucers exist if you're curious

1158
00:51:45,650 --> 00:51:43,859
to know why major Kehoe charges at the

1159
00:51:48,290 --> 00:51:45,660
United States Air Force is deliberately

1160
00:51:50,390 --> 00:51:48,300
deluding us when it calls thoughts and

1161
00:51:52,370 --> 00:51:50,400
stories the bunk if you want to hear his

1162
00:51:54,470 --> 00:51:52,380
own evidence that the saucers are real

1163
00:51:56,390 --> 00:51:54,480
and his reaction to the claim of two

1164
00:51:58,190 --> 00:51:56,400
Americans who say they've spoken with

1165
00:51:59,930 --> 00:51:58,200
men from Venus

1166
00:52:00,650 --> 00:51:59,940
we'll go after those stories in just a

1167
00:52:03,589 --> 00:52:00,660
moment

1168
00:52:07,270 --> 00:52:03,599
my name is Mike Wallace the cigarette is

1169
00:52:12,530 --> 00:52:09,170
the new

1170
00:52:14,089 --> 00:52:12,540
High filtration filter Parliament

1171
00:52:16,310 --> 00:52:14,099
[Music]

1172
00:52:21,549 --> 00:52:16,320
presents

1173
00:52:25,309 --> 00:52:21,559
[Music]

1174
00:52:28,069 --> 00:52:25,319
a Mike Wallace interview

1175
00:52:30,710 --> 00:52:28,079
we'll meet major Kehoe in just a minute

1176
00:52:31,970 --> 00:52:30,720
how does your cigarette stack up against

1177
00:52:34,790 --> 00:52:31,980
other brands

1178
00:52:38,030 --> 00:52:34,800
well if parliament's your smoke you're

1179
00:52:41,150 --> 00:52:38,040
smoking the best because now Parliament

1180
00:52:42,530 --> 00:52:41,160
with the recessed filter is best

1181
00:52:45,290 --> 00:52:42,540
that's

1182
00:52:48,170 --> 00:52:45,300
the new high five or higher filtration

1183
00:52:50,150 --> 00:52:48,180
polyp the proof

1184
00:52:53,329 --> 00:52:50,160
well suppose I showed

1185
00:52:55,609 --> 00:52:53,339
first Parliament is best because only

1186
00:52:58,190 --> 00:52:55,619
Parliament can give you over 30 000

1187
00:53:01,010 --> 00:52:58,200
traps no other popular cigarette

1188
00:53:04,089 --> 00:53:01,020
delivers less nicotine and tar

1189
00:53:07,549 --> 00:53:04,099
second unlike ordinary buildings

1190
00:53:10,730 --> 00:53:07,559
parliament's filter is recessed set feet

1191
00:53:13,430 --> 00:53:10,740
down inside here so the Trap nicotine

1192
00:53:16,069 --> 00:53:13,440
and tar can't get on your lips

1193
00:53:18,349 --> 00:53:16,079
and third because it's recessed there's

1194
00:53:20,690 --> 00:53:18,359
no bitter taste of concentrated nicotine

1195
00:53:22,370 --> 00:53:20,700
and tar to spoil parliament's pure

1196
00:53:24,290 --> 00:53:22,380
tobacco flavor

1197
00:53:27,049 --> 00:53:24,300
these filter findings are confirmed by

1198
00:53:29,630 --> 00:53:27,059
the United States testing company over

1199
00:53:32,270 --> 00:53:29,640
30 000 traps exclusive recess filter

1200
00:53:34,910 --> 00:53:32,280
flavor pure protection

1201
00:53:39,530 --> 00:53:34,920
yes now smoke the best high filtration

1202
00:53:43,910 --> 00:53:41,569
and now to our story

1203
00:53:46,190 --> 00:53:43,920
major Donald Kehoe is the director of

1204
00:53:47,809 --> 00:53:46,200
the national investigations committee on

1205
00:53:50,569 --> 00:53:47,819
aerial phenomena

1206
00:53:52,849 --> 00:53:50,579
as head of this private group interested

1207
00:53:54,530 --> 00:53:52,859
in blind thoughts he's repeatedly

1208
00:53:56,870 --> 00:53:54,540
attacked the United States Air Force and

1209
00:53:59,329 --> 00:53:56,880
others proclaiming that flying saucers

1210
00:54:02,270 --> 00:53:59,339
are apparently Flights of Fancy and not

1211
00:54:04,370 --> 00:54:02,280
flight by martians or men from the Moon

1212
00:54:07,849 --> 00:54:04,380
independent surveys show that millions

1213
00:54:09,950 --> 00:54:07,859
of Americans do share his beliefs in

1214
00:54:11,930 --> 00:54:09,960
these Celestial saucers

1215
00:54:13,309 --> 00:54:11,940
major Keyhole first of all let me ask

1216
00:55:02,089 --> 00:54:13,319
you this most people in the United

1217
00:55:06,049 --> 00:55:04,490
States in spite of the fact that I say

1218
00:55:07,370 --> 00:55:06,059
that Millions do believe I think you

1219
00:55:10,190 --> 00:55:07,380
will agree that most people in the

1220
00:55:12,470 --> 00:55:10,200
United States don't believe in flying

1221
00:55:16,370 --> 00:55:12,480
sauces from outer space they probably

1222
00:55:18,770 --> 00:55:16,380
hold the view of columnist Bob considine

1223
00:55:21,950 --> 00:55:18,780
who wrote that flying saucers are

1224
00:55:25,609 --> 00:55:21,960
products of for the most part quote

1225
00:55:28,730 --> 00:55:25,619
pranksters half wits cranks publicity

1226
00:55:30,049 --> 00:55:28,740
hung Fanatics in general and Screwballs

1227
00:55:32,150 --> 00:55:30,059
end quote

1228
00:55:32,809 --> 00:55:32,160
how do you feel about the consider's

1229
00:55:34,609 --> 00:55:32,819
charge

1230
00:55:36,470 --> 00:55:34,619
well I know where he got the story he

1231
00:55:38,150 --> 00:55:36,480
got it from Colonel Watson out at the

1232
00:55:40,010 --> 00:55:38,160
air technical Intelligence Center in

1233
00:55:41,450 --> 00:55:40,020
Dayton in fact the current one even a

1234
00:55:43,490 --> 00:55:41,460
little farther and he said behind every

1235
00:55:45,589 --> 00:55:43,500
sighting was

1236
00:55:47,690 --> 00:55:45,599
all right all right all right all right

1237
00:55:50,630 --> 00:55:47,700
all right I'm back come back I'm back

1238
00:55:52,670 --> 00:55:50,640
freaking half woods freaking half wits

1239
00:55:54,770 --> 00:55:52,680
you saw fine saucer you freaking have

1240
00:55:58,250 --> 00:55:54,780
what

1241
00:56:01,130 --> 00:55:58,260
that's crazy huh I'm half wits yeah

1242
00:56:06,890 --> 00:56:03,950
what a dope I put the

1243
00:56:08,390 --> 00:56:06,900
the video in the uh

1244
00:56:09,829 --> 00:56:08,400
chat there in case you guys want to

1245
00:56:11,569 --> 00:56:09,839
watch it

1246
00:56:15,890 --> 00:56:11,579
the whole thing it's pretty interesting

1247
00:56:17,870 --> 00:56:15,900
watching that and kind of evaluating

1248
00:56:21,770 --> 00:56:17,880
um where we're at you know from then and

1249
00:56:25,750 --> 00:56:21,780
now it's definitely interesting so

1250
00:56:28,069 --> 00:56:25,760
I suggest you check it out when you have

1251
00:56:31,370 --> 00:56:28,079
the time

1252
00:56:34,250 --> 00:56:31,380
so I'm saving the actual uh video that

1253
00:56:36,109 --> 00:56:34,260
we saw in Congress for something special

1254
00:56:39,349 --> 00:56:36,119
at the end

1255
00:56:43,430 --> 00:56:40,910
so

1256
00:56:46,490 --> 00:56:43,440
foreign

1257
00:56:50,750 --> 00:56:46,500
and if you're familiar with what I do

1258
00:56:53,569 --> 00:56:50,760
you may have an idea of what I mean

1259
00:56:56,750 --> 00:56:53,579
but for now I would love to get into

1260
00:56:59,270 --> 00:56:56,760
something a little different this is

1261
00:57:03,349 --> 00:56:59,280
um I'd like to cover an old case quick

1262
00:57:06,670 --> 00:57:03,359
here and it's uh 1968 Minot Air Force

1263
00:57:10,190 --> 00:57:06,680
Base and that is a Strategic Air Command

1264
00:57:11,809 --> 00:57:10,200
nuclear missile base and that was going

1265
00:57:16,250 --> 00:57:11,819
on it was at the height of the Cold War

1266
00:57:19,849 --> 00:57:16,260
and we have about 14 different Witnesses

1267
00:57:23,210 --> 00:57:19,859
so I thought we would kind of check out

1268
00:57:25,190 --> 00:57:23,220
the documents here so we have Minot Air

1269
00:57:28,849 --> 00:57:25,200
Force Base 68 Air Force documents what

1270
00:57:32,270 --> 00:57:28,859
happened according to Lieutenant Moreno

1271
00:57:34,730 --> 00:57:32,280
at about oh 300 hours local of B-52 that

1272
00:57:36,890 --> 00:57:34,740
was about 39 miles Northwest of Minot

1273
00:57:39,410 --> 00:57:36,900
Air Force Base and was making practice

1274
00:57:41,510 --> 00:57:39,420
penetration cited an unidentified blip

1275
00:57:43,790 --> 00:57:41,520
on the radar initially the target

1276
00:57:46,910 --> 00:57:43,800
traveled approximately approximately two

1277
00:57:51,950 --> 00:57:46,920
and a half miles and three seconds or at

1278
00:57:55,670 --> 00:57:53,990
after passing from the right to the left

1279
00:57:58,250 --> 00:57:55,680
of the plane it assumed a position off

1280
00:57:59,990 --> 00:57:58,260
the left wing of the 52. the blip stayed

1281
00:58:02,390 --> 00:58:00,000
off the left wing for approximately 20

1282
00:58:04,430 --> 00:58:02,400
miles at which point it broke off scope

1283
00:58:07,309 --> 00:58:04,440
photographs were taken when the target

1284
00:58:09,770 --> 00:58:07,319
was close to the B-52 at neither of the

1285
00:58:12,290 --> 00:58:09,780
two transmitters in the B-52 would

1286
00:58:15,109 --> 00:58:12,300
operate properly but when it broke off

1287
00:58:17,930 --> 00:58:15,119
both returned to normal function so they

1288
00:58:20,450 --> 00:58:17,940
have this UFO sighting and When the UFO

1289
00:58:23,630 --> 00:58:20,460
gets close to the B-52 their

1290
00:58:25,549 --> 00:58:23,640
communication Transmissions go down

1291
00:58:27,829 --> 00:58:25,559
at about this time a missile maintenance

1292
00:58:29,569 --> 00:58:27,839
man called in and reported a citing a

1293
00:58:31,309 --> 00:58:29,579
bright orangish red object the object

1294
00:58:33,650 --> 00:58:31,319
was hovering at about a thousand feet or

1295
00:58:35,510 --> 00:58:33,660
so and had a sound similar to a jet

1296
00:58:38,390 --> 00:58:35,520
engine The Observer had stopped his car

1297
00:58:40,490 --> 00:58:38,400
but he then started it up again as he

1298
00:58:42,470 --> 00:58:40,500
started to move the object followed him

1299
00:58:44,690 --> 00:58:42,480
and then accelerated and appeared to

1300
00:58:46,849 --> 00:58:44,700
stop about six to eight miles away the

1301
00:58:49,250 --> 00:58:46,859
Observer shortly afterward lost sight of

1302
00:58:51,710 --> 00:58:49,260
it in response to the maintenance man's

1303
00:58:54,049 --> 00:58:51,720
call the B-52 which had continued its

1304
00:58:55,549 --> 00:58:54,059
penetration run was Vector towards the

1305
00:58:58,910 --> 00:58:55,559
visual which was about 10 miles

1306
00:59:01,069 --> 00:58:58,920
Northwest of the base the B-52 confirmed

1307
00:59:03,289 --> 00:59:01,079
having cited a bright light of some type

1308
00:59:04,930 --> 00:59:03,299
that appeared to be hovering just over

1309
00:59:08,510 --> 00:59:04,940
or on the ground

1310
00:59:10,670 --> 00:59:08,520
14 other people in separate locations

1311
00:59:12,950 --> 00:59:10,680
also reported citing a similar object

1312
00:59:16,010 --> 00:59:12,960
also at this approximate time security

1313
00:59:18,589 --> 00:59:16,020
alarm for one of the sites was activated

1314
00:59:21,170 --> 00:59:18,599
this was an alarm for both the outer and

1315
00:59:22,910 --> 00:59:21,180
inner ring when guards arrived at the

1316
00:59:25,309 --> 00:59:22,920
scene they found that the outer door was

1317
00:59:28,430 --> 00:59:25,319
open and the combination lock on the

1318
00:59:31,970 --> 00:59:28,440
inner door had been moved

1319
00:59:35,450 --> 00:59:31,980
interesting so we have a UFO sighting

1320
00:59:40,370 --> 00:59:37,970
and when the guards arrived

1321
00:59:43,670 --> 00:59:40,380
they found that the outer door was open

1322
00:59:46,370 --> 00:59:43,680
and the combination lock

1323
00:59:48,289 --> 00:59:46,380
interesting

1324
00:59:52,970 --> 00:59:48,299
we're going to come back to that it's a

1325
00:59:58,250 --> 00:59:56,630
there was a special on this on ABC News

1326
01:00:00,410 --> 00:59:58,260
as well and I wanted to play some of the

1327
01:00:02,030 --> 01:00:00,420
clips of the testimony but there's music

1328
01:00:04,430 --> 01:00:02,040
in the background and they'd probably

1329
01:00:07,490 --> 01:00:04,440
shut the video down so

1330
01:00:10,910 --> 01:00:07,500
here we go Minot Air Force Base 68

1331
01:00:13,430 --> 01:00:10,920
the documents the break-in

1332
01:00:14,750 --> 01:00:13,440
Now look for these words if it was a

1333
01:00:17,870 --> 01:00:14,760
person

1334
01:00:19,430 --> 01:00:17,880
Lieutenant Moreno asked if it was go

1335
01:00:21,049 --> 01:00:19,440
if it was going with the wind and

1336
01:00:22,970 --> 01:00:21,059
explained how we've had trouble with hot

1337
01:00:24,650 --> 01:00:22,980
air balloons and he gave the description

1338
01:00:26,390 --> 01:00:24,660
duration Etc

1339
01:00:28,309 --> 01:00:26,400
Colonel warlick informed Lieutenant

1340
01:00:29,990 --> 01:00:28,319
Moreno that if he was familiar with the

1341
01:00:32,270 --> 01:00:30,000
geography he would see why this wouldn't

1342
01:00:35,329 --> 01:00:32,280
be possible there must be four or five

1343
01:00:37,250 --> 01:00:35,339
farmhouses within 10 mile radius and

1344
01:00:39,230 --> 01:00:37,260
Grano with six to ten small dwellings

1345
01:00:40,910 --> 01:00:39,240
and the areas deserted at this time of

1346
01:00:42,770 --> 01:00:40,920
the morning I doubt that there would be

1347
01:00:44,809 --> 01:00:42,780
any activity like this the sighting was

1348
01:00:46,730 --> 01:00:44,819
about 11 miles from November 7th site

1349
01:00:49,549 --> 01:00:46,740
November 7 is a missile site that's

1350
01:00:52,010 --> 01:00:49,559
where one of the nukes missiles are this

1351
01:00:54,710 --> 01:00:52,020
is a sensitive subject anybody that

1352
01:00:56,690 --> 01:00:54,720
could unlock the padlock wouldn't be a

1353
01:00:57,829 --> 01:00:56,700
prankster from the farm area there are

1354
01:01:00,049 --> 01:00:57,839
keys that

1355
01:01:01,670 --> 01:01:00,059
there are keys for these padlocks and

1356
01:01:03,890 --> 01:01:01,680
it's hard to judge how many keys have

1357
01:01:05,569 --> 01:01:03,900
been made it looks like a Navy hatch and

1358
01:01:07,670 --> 01:01:05,579
underneath it is the combination lock

1359
01:01:12,650 --> 01:01:07,680
pranksters just couldn't go and open it

1360
01:01:18,650 --> 01:01:14,990
what else would it be

1361
01:01:20,329 --> 01:01:18,660
would have to know how to open it we

1362
01:01:22,670 --> 01:01:20,339
have had about three occurrences in the

1363
01:01:24,289 --> 01:01:22,680
last two or three years doing this all

1364
01:01:26,569 --> 01:01:24,299
three of these cases were tracked back

1365
01:01:28,250 --> 01:01:26,579
to air police guys who had been in the

1366
01:01:30,890 --> 01:01:28,260
service on these areas it is not a

1367
01:01:34,010 --> 01:01:30,900
serious offense 99 out of 100 chances

1368
01:01:37,309 --> 01:01:34,020
that of a person a human being

1369
01:01:40,970 --> 01:01:37,319
accomplish this thing then it had to be

1370
01:01:44,329 --> 01:01:40,980
somebody who had a key to the padlock

1371
01:01:46,670 --> 01:01:44,339
if that a person a human being what else

1372
01:01:48,589 --> 01:01:46,680
would unlock a padlock

1373
01:01:52,250 --> 01:01:48,599
if it wasn't a human being do you get my

1374
01:01:57,470 --> 01:01:52,260
drift if it was a person

1375
01:02:02,630 --> 01:02:00,410
Colonel so and then we continue on

1376
01:02:04,670 --> 01:02:02,640
Lieutenant Moreno told Colonel warlick

1377
01:02:07,250 --> 01:02:04,680
that we have no evidence though that the

1378
01:02:08,809 --> 01:02:07,260
UFO events did this Colonel warlick

1379
01:02:11,089 --> 01:02:08,819
agreed but said that a lieutenant

1380
01:02:12,950 --> 01:02:11,099
examined the area the next day and could

1381
01:02:15,829 --> 01:02:12,960
find no evidence of cars tire tracks

1382
01:02:17,210 --> 01:02:15,839
Footprints Etc Colonel wurlich said that

1383
01:02:19,609 --> 01:02:17,220
he didn't know of an examination

1384
01:02:22,490 --> 01:02:19,619
investigation was going on or not but

1385
01:02:24,589 --> 01:02:22,500
felt they probably were looking into it

1386
01:02:26,569 --> 01:02:24,599
so remember this

1387
01:02:28,250 --> 01:02:26,579
there's a padlock

1388
01:02:29,930 --> 01:02:28,260
undone

1389
01:02:32,870 --> 01:02:29,940
the guy keeps questioning if it's a

1390
01:02:35,630 --> 01:02:32,880
person there's no Footprints no evidence

1391
01:02:39,710 --> 01:02:35,640
of cars no tire tracks nothing around

1392
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,710
don't forget that

1393
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:46,510
because we're gonna get back to it

1394
01:02:52,250 --> 01:02:49,549
Communication System malfunctions the

1395
01:02:53,990 --> 01:02:52,260
unusual part is the B-52 was in the

1396
01:02:55,730 --> 01:02:54,000
middle of a sentence and the voice just

1397
01:02:56,870 --> 01:02:55,740
quit transmitting right in the middle of

1398
01:02:58,910 --> 01:02:56,880
the word

1399
01:03:01,970 --> 01:02:58,920
because we had an accident a couple of

1400
01:03:04,069 --> 01:03:01,980
weeks ago we were quite interested

1401
01:03:06,950 --> 01:03:04,079
Ground Control asked them if they had

1402
01:03:09,470 --> 01:03:06,960
any trouble to give a mode a squawk

1403
01:03:11,450 --> 01:03:09,480
the airplane changed both UHF and

1404
01:03:13,370 --> 01:03:11,460
neither would transmit but they could

1405
01:03:15,890 --> 01:03:13,380
receive and each time to show that they

1406
01:03:19,010 --> 01:03:15,900
could receive they hit the squawk which

1407
01:03:20,750 --> 01:03:19,020
will last for about 30 seconds each time

1408
01:03:23,750 --> 01:03:20,760
there's quite a bit of this the

1409
01:03:25,309 --> 01:03:23,760
Navigator was the Navigator who watched

1410
01:03:27,950 --> 01:03:25,319
the paint disappear as fast as it

1411
01:03:29,750 --> 01:03:27,960
appeared my personal opinion is that it

1412
01:03:31,910 --> 01:03:29,760
couldn't be a malfunction because they

1413
01:03:33,890 --> 01:03:31,920
transmitted before and afterwards the

1414
01:03:35,990 --> 01:03:33,900
aircraft was not checked out afterwards

1415
01:03:38,270 --> 01:03:36,000
because the transmission was working

1416
01:03:39,770 --> 01:03:38,280
I don't know if the heavy Haze would

1417
01:03:42,049 --> 01:03:39,780
have been enough to point out the

1418
01:03:44,210 --> 01:03:42,059
transmission Lieutenant Moreno explained

1419
01:03:46,670 --> 01:03:44,220
that we do not have blah blah blah that

1420
01:03:49,609 --> 01:03:46,680
must have not been important

1421
01:03:51,589 --> 01:03:49,619
so it wasn't a malfunction

1422
01:03:53,329 --> 01:03:51,599
they change frequencies

1423
01:03:55,309 --> 01:03:53,339
neither worked

1424
01:03:57,710 --> 01:03:55,319
but it turns out they did work When the

1425
01:03:59,990 --> 01:03:57,720
UFO went away

1426
01:04:06,349 --> 01:04:02,089
so we have radar

1427
01:04:10,970 --> 01:04:09,230
Colonel warlick uh here we go

1428
01:04:12,710 --> 01:04:10,980
investigator needed help ask didn't get

1429
01:04:14,450 --> 01:04:12,720
it colonel warlick said he would be

1430
01:04:15,710 --> 01:04:14,460
flying tomorrow and Monday Colonel

1431
01:04:17,210 --> 01:04:15,720
warlick said that he had done the

1432
01:04:18,890 --> 01:04:17,220
initial investigation in accordance with

1433
01:04:21,470 --> 01:04:18,900
the regulations

1434
01:04:24,289 --> 01:04:21,480
and I met the limit of my capabilities

1435
01:04:27,109 --> 01:04:24,299
Colonel warlick I can send supplemental

1436
01:04:28,490 --> 01:04:27,119
data and will if we make our desires

1437
01:04:30,890 --> 01:04:28,500
known and inform what specific

1438
01:04:32,390 --> 01:04:30,900
information we need Colonel warlick said

1439
01:04:33,950 --> 01:04:32,400
that we were hoping for technical

1440
01:04:36,230 --> 01:04:33,960
assistance and we didn't get it

1441
01:04:38,750 --> 01:04:36,240
Lieutenant Moreno told warlick we felt

1442
01:04:40,609 --> 01:04:38,760
that he was doing an adequate job as far

1443
01:04:43,250 --> 01:04:40,619
as technical data Colonel warlick said

1444
01:04:45,530 --> 01:04:43,260
that this was his first report and

1445
01:04:48,109 --> 01:04:45,540
didn't know how to ask questions or

1446
01:04:52,510 --> 01:04:48,119
anything and he had spent too much time

1447
01:04:56,270 --> 01:04:55,190
this is his first report that he's ever

1448
01:04:58,849 --> 01:04:56,280
done

1449
01:05:04,309 --> 01:04:58,859
was at this nuclear base

1450
01:05:07,789 --> 01:05:06,890
plasma suggested as cause talk to Mr

1451
01:05:09,410 --> 01:05:07,799
Goff

1452
01:05:11,150 --> 01:05:09,420
who is quite familiar with Airborne

1453
01:05:12,710 --> 01:05:11,160
Radars Mr Goff said that from the

1454
01:05:14,150 --> 01:05:12,720
evidence available at this time it would

1455
01:05:16,370 --> 01:05:14,160
appear to him that the sightings may

1456
01:05:18,530 --> 01:05:16,380
have been precipitated by some type of

1457
01:05:20,569 --> 01:05:18,540
ionized air plasma similar to ball

1458
01:05:22,789 --> 01:05:20,579
lightning he felt that a plasma could

1459
01:05:24,530 --> 01:05:22,799
account for the radar blip loss of

1460
01:05:26,329 --> 01:05:24,540
transmission and some of the visual

1461
01:05:27,829 --> 01:05:26,339
sightings the entry of the missile site

1462
01:05:30,230 --> 01:05:27,839
is being investigated by local

1463
01:05:32,809 --> 01:05:30,240
authorities and with the information at

1464
01:05:35,569 --> 01:05:32,819
our disposal at this time no explanation

1465
01:05:39,109 --> 01:05:35,579
is offered

1466
01:05:41,809 --> 01:05:39,119
you know what they're talking about

1467
01:05:47,270 --> 01:05:41,819
it's an orb

1468
01:05:51,349 --> 01:05:49,250
and it's interesting because the same

1469
01:05:53,990 --> 01:05:51,359
way that's described is how other people

1470
01:05:59,390 --> 01:05:54,000
at those facilities

1471
01:06:04,730 --> 01:06:02,930
the witnesses and interesting additional

1472
01:06:07,130 --> 01:06:04,740
testimony so all these people were

1473
01:06:10,010 --> 01:06:07,140
Witnesses 14.

1474
01:06:11,569 --> 01:06:10,020
at 0308 hours the initial report was

1475
01:06:13,190 --> 01:06:11,579
received from a maintenance team en

1476
01:06:15,470 --> 01:06:13,200
route from November 8 to November 7

1477
01:06:17,750 --> 01:06:15,480
again to missile sites

1478
01:06:19,670 --> 01:06:17,760
and A1C O'Connor was the maintenance

1479
01:06:21,349 --> 01:06:19,680
team Chief and he stated that all

1480
01:06:23,210 --> 01:06:21,359
members of the team observed the lighted

1481
01:06:25,010 --> 01:06:23,220
object they further stated that it was

1482
01:06:27,230 --> 01:06:25,020
reddish orange in color a very large

1483
01:06:29,930 --> 01:06:27,240
object with flashing green and white

1484
01:06:32,450 --> 01:06:29,940
lights after they entered November 7 iaf

1485
01:06:34,609 --> 01:06:32,460
the object came directly over ahead with

1486
01:06:37,370 --> 01:06:34,619
the sound of a jet engine

1487
01:06:38,870 --> 01:06:37,380
Sergeant bond to the FSC at November

1488
01:06:42,170 --> 01:06:38,880
Fleet stated that the object which

1489
01:06:44,990 --> 01:06:42,180
looked to him as the sun came near the

1490
01:06:48,170 --> 01:06:45,000
hendred antenna November 1. it then

1491
01:06:50,990 --> 01:06:48,180
moved to the right and he sent the s.a.t

1492
01:06:54,890 --> 01:06:51,000
out to check and see what it is security

1493
01:06:59,569 --> 01:06:57,950
the object then moved out uh that the

1494
01:07:02,150 --> 01:06:59,579
object then moved about one mile away

1495
01:07:04,069 --> 01:07:02,160
with the November security alert team

1496
01:07:05,750 --> 01:07:04,079
following they came within a half a mile

1497
01:07:07,490 --> 01:07:05,760
from where it appeared to be landing

1498
01:07:09,529 --> 01:07:07,500
when it reached the surface the lights

1499
01:07:11,329 --> 01:07:09,539
became dimmer and finally went out after

1500
01:07:13,609 --> 01:07:11,339
this they could see nothing Sergeant

1501
01:07:16,430 --> 01:07:13,619
Smith at Oscar won suddenly object

1502
01:07:18,410 --> 01:07:16,440
separate in two parts and go in opposite

1503
01:07:21,349 --> 01:07:18,420
directions and return and pass under

1504
01:07:23,510 --> 01:07:21,359
each other at this time Gillette Fleet

1505
01:07:25,309 --> 01:07:23,520
and Mike fleet team observed the same

1506
01:07:27,289 --> 01:07:25,319
things and described it in the same way

1507
01:07:30,289 --> 01:07:27,299
the approximate grid coordinate of the

1508
01:07:32,750 --> 01:07:30,299
apparent Landing was at aa43 the entire

1509
01:07:35,930 --> 01:07:32,760
observation period as near as can be

1510
01:07:37,370 --> 01:07:35,940
determined was about 45 minutes so in

1511
01:07:39,650 --> 01:07:37,380
this testimony we have two separate

1512
01:07:43,730 --> 01:07:39,660
objects that split up

1513
01:07:49,730 --> 01:07:47,410
very interesting so

1514
01:07:51,410 --> 01:07:49,740
and these are just like the kind of

1515
01:07:52,490 --> 01:07:51,420
breakdowns the timeline of events I'm

1516
01:07:53,809 --> 01:07:52,500
not going to go through all these

1517
01:07:55,849 --> 01:07:53,819
obviously because there's a lot of them

1518
01:07:57,170 --> 01:07:55,859
but you can see that this is a real

1519
01:07:58,450 --> 01:07:57,180
event

1520
01:08:00,710 --> 01:07:58,460
you know

1521
01:08:02,750 --> 01:08:00,720
we have a breakdown minute by minute

1522
01:08:06,890 --> 01:08:02,760
object now appears one mile away and

1523
01:08:08,569 --> 01:08:06,900
moving on in on them object now reverse

1524
01:08:11,390 --> 01:08:08,579
Direction and moving towards site now

1525
01:08:12,710 --> 01:08:11,400
600 feet from sight and lower from 800

1526
01:08:15,950 --> 01:08:12,720
feet

1527
01:08:17,870 --> 01:08:15,960
two are see no jet engines are now very

1528
01:08:20,390 --> 01:08:17,880
clearly moving Southwest of site and

1529
01:08:22,070 --> 01:08:20,400
gaining altitude just our Insight now

1530
01:08:23,990 --> 01:08:22,080
when it passed oversight it looked like

1531
01:08:26,450 --> 01:08:24,000
two headlights moving real slow when

1532
01:08:28,550 --> 01:08:26,460
oversight could hear engines interesting

1533
01:08:30,410 --> 01:08:28,560
interesting that they could hear engines

1534
01:08:35,030 --> 01:08:30,420
and I wonder if that's the B-52 that

1535
01:08:45,110 --> 01:08:38,930
so yeah we have plenty of proof for this

1536
01:08:51,110 --> 01:08:48,349
so the final conclusion was by Foreign

1537
01:08:52,789 --> 01:08:51,120
technology division visual star and a

1538
01:08:55,669 --> 01:08:52,799
plane

1539
01:09:02,410 --> 01:08:55,679
radar and communication issues plasma

1540
01:09:08,630 --> 01:09:05,990
I don't think that that is probably as

1541
01:09:11,329 --> 01:09:08,640
far as the visual goes uh correct but

1542
01:09:14,209 --> 01:09:11,339
you know it's just me so I think that's

1543
01:09:16,669 --> 01:09:14,219
a a pretty great case we have visual

1544
01:09:18,349 --> 01:09:16,679
we have radar that clocked it at 3 000

1545
01:09:22,910 --> 01:09:18,359
miles per hour well beyond anything

1546
01:09:29,510 --> 01:09:25,849
and now the best part of this the most

1547
01:09:31,970 --> 01:09:29,520
interesting part of this case is to me

1548
01:09:33,829 --> 01:09:31,980
the break-in part and I'm going to play

1549
01:09:34,789 --> 01:09:33,839
some testimony from somebody that was

1550
01:09:37,430 --> 01:09:34,799
there

1551
01:09:40,910 --> 01:09:37,440
and what somebody told him about that

1552
01:09:44,749 --> 01:09:40,920
aspect oh an alarm goes off and on the

1553
01:09:49,130 --> 01:09:44,759
missile silos and uh well anyway uh

1554
01:09:51,709 --> 01:09:49,140
so uh uh turns out that uh this is what

1555
01:09:54,590 --> 01:09:51,719
was told to us at the briefing about a

1556
01:09:58,250 --> 01:09:54,600
general officer the following day

1557
01:10:01,910 --> 01:09:58,260
so uh air police were dispatched to uh

1558
01:10:04,310 --> 01:10:01,920
check on the missile alarm and uh

1559
01:10:05,870 --> 01:10:04,320
so the first air policemen that were

1560
01:10:07,910 --> 01:10:05,880
sent out didn't check in when it should

1561
01:10:10,550 --> 01:10:07,920
have so it sent others to

1562
01:10:13,010 --> 01:10:10,560
check on them and the second group found

1563
01:10:14,689 --> 01:10:13,020
the first group unconscious around their

1564
01:10:15,770 --> 01:10:14,699
vehicle with a paint burned off the top

1565
01:10:19,130 --> 01:10:15,780
of their vehicle

1566
01:10:21,350 --> 01:10:19,140
and when they came to they uh they said

1567
01:10:22,790 --> 01:10:21,360
that you know something some object that

1568
01:10:25,250 --> 01:10:22,800
they thought was going to sit down on

1569
01:10:28,189 --> 01:10:25,260
top of them and uh so they started

1570
01:10:29,570 --> 01:10:28,199
running those last that they knew but I

1571
01:10:30,890 --> 01:10:29,580
doubted they didn't squash their vehicle

1572
01:10:31,790 --> 01:10:30,900
or anything so it didn't sit down on

1573
01:10:33,350 --> 01:10:31,800
them

1574
01:10:37,250 --> 01:10:33,360
and uh

1575
01:10:39,830 --> 01:10:37,260
so uh but anyway uh it turns out that uh

1576
01:10:43,010 --> 01:10:39,840
the reason that the alarms were set off

1577
01:10:45,530 --> 01:10:43,020
is a 20-ton concrete lid covering the

1578
01:10:46,970 --> 01:10:45,540
top of a missile silo has been removed

1579
01:10:48,649 --> 01:10:46,980
and uh

1580
01:10:51,110 --> 01:10:48,659
channeling fence around the thing had

1581
01:10:53,090 --> 01:10:51,120
been squashed there's radioactivity

1582
01:10:56,570 --> 01:10:53,100
around and uh

1583
01:10:58,490 --> 01:10:56,580
the inner alarm down inside The Silo had

1584
01:11:02,510 --> 01:10:58,500
also been activated

1585
01:11:04,550 --> 01:11:02,520
well it turns out that the uh there were

1586
01:11:06,890 --> 01:11:04,560
two ways to remove the uh the concrete

1587
01:11:08,810 --> 01:11:06,900
lid you either have a large crane to

1588
01:11:11,750 --> 01:11:08,820
lift 20 tons and set it off to the side

1589
01:11:13,490 --> 01:11:11,760
or have explosive charges that blew it

1590
01:11:15,830 --> 01:11:13,500
off in case one launched the missile and

1591
01:11:24,350 --> 01:11:15,840
go to war explosive charges hadn't been

1592
01:11:28,850 --> 01:11:25,790
that missile man they have to blow that

1593
01:11:31,550 --> 01:11:28,860
yeah they blow it off yeah

1594
01:11:33,830 --> 01:11:31,560
it was just off to the side someplace it

1595
01:11:35,390 --> 01:11:33,840
wasn't on top of the the missile silo

1596
01:11:37,970 --> 01:11:35,400
anyway no

1597
01:11:40,070 --> 01:11:37,980
now a chain link fence yes tight Around

1598
01:11:42,290 --> 01:11:40,080
The Silo oh well just just to keep

1599
01:11:44,990 --> 01:11:42,300
mainly keep animals out and I guess

1600
01:11:47,630 --> 01:11:45,000
people and uh but a part of it had been

1601
01:11:50,270 --> 01:11:47,640
uh flattened just squashed there weren't

1602
01:11:51,709 --> 01:11:50,280
any any tracks around other than it was

1603
01:11:54,830 --> 01:11:51,719
just right there at the chain link fence

1604
01:11:56,630 --> 01:11:54,840
we want to point out this the written

1605
01:11:59,390 --> 01:11:56,640
our counter this sighting doesn't say

1606
01:12:02,570 --> 01:11:59,400
anything no no this was just told to us

1607
01:12:04,270 --> 01:12:02,580
that's file was such of an important

1608
01:12:07,130 --> 01:12:04,280
nature to their Force

1609
01:12:13,550 --> 01:12:07,140
because of the uh the missile being

1610
01:12:18,290 --> 01:12:15,530
what's interesting there is the person

1611
01:12:20,990 --> 01:12:18,300
interviewing is interviewing him it says

1612
01:12:24,410 --> 01:12:21,000
at the end now there's nothing in the

1613
01:12:27,290 --> 01:12:24,420
documents uh in the official report for

1614
01:12:29,270 --> 01:12:27,300
this that talks about what he was

1615
01:12:32,450 --> 01:12:29,280
talking about the big lid

1616
01:12:34,430 --> 01:12:32,460
that was off of the missile silo but the

1617
01:12:36,110 --> 01:12:34,440
guy I don't know he must not have read

1618
01:12:38,810 --> 01:12:36,120
the blue book reports we just read

1619
01:12:41,270 --> 01:12:38,820
because it clearly talks about the

1620
01:12:43,250 --> 01:12:41,280
alarms and things being open

1621
01:12:45,709 --> 01:12:43,260
which is so interesting because in this

1622
01:12:47,030 --> 01:12:45,719
guy's testimony he says

1623
01:12:49,310 --> 01:12:47,040
um that there are no Footprints or

1624
01:12:50,810 --> 01:12:49,320
anything around that's we got that from

1625
01:12:54,830 --> 01:12:50,820
the documents and this is what somebody

1626
01:12:57,169 --> 01:12:54,840
told this guy at the time okay

1627
01:12:58,189 --> 01:12:57,179
so what somebody told him is lining up

1628
01:13:03,709 --> 01:12:58,199
with

1629
01:13:05,510 --> 01:13:03,719
now when he was talking about the lid of

1630
01:13:07,669 --> 01:13:05,520
The Silo being off he told you how it

1631
01:13:08,930 --> 01:13:07,679
would actually be removed you would need

1632
01:13:11,510 --> 01:13:08,940
a huge crane

1633
01:13:13,610 --> 01:13:11,520
it's really freaking heavy

1634
01:13:16,310 --> 01:13:13,620
so that was removed

1635
01:13:19,130 --> 01:13:16,320
and that's why colonel warlick

1636
01:13:21,410 --> 01:13:19,140
in the documents that we read

1637
01:13:25,910 --> 01:13:21,420
when talking about the break-in

1638
01:13:32,390 --> 01:13:29,510
or if an actual person did this

1639
01:13:35,570 --> 01:13:32,400
so we take that from the documents we go

1640
01:13:38,570 --> 01:13:35,580
over and watch the testimony

1641
01:13:40,370 --> 01:13:38,580
figure out that the lid on the thing is

1642
01:13:43,550 --> 01:13:40,380
so heavy you would need a huge crane to

1643
01:13:48,530 --> 01:13:46,490
no Footprints no nothing

1644
01:13:51,290 --> 01:13:48,540
your answer is right there that's a real

1645
01:13:59,810 --> 01:13:55,850
corroborated by the actual documents

1646
01:14:04,310 --> 01:14:01,669
now if we're looking for

1647
01:14:06,649 --> 01:14:04,320
extraterrestrials

1648
01:14:10,189 --> 01:14:06,659
something that doesn't seem human

1649
01:14:11,990 --> 01:14:10,199
I think that this is a great

1650
01:14:16,070 --> 01:14:12,000
example

1651
01:14:19,490 --> 01:14:16,080
something going 3000 miles per hour

1652
01:14:24,350 --> 01:14:19,500
something moved a huge

1653
01:14:30,709 --> 01:14:28,370
with no Footprints or anything around it

1654
01:14:32,990 --> 01:14:30,719
we have testimony from somebody that was

1655
01:14:34,550 --> 01:14:33,000
there that said that actually that was

1656
01:14:36,590 --> 01:14:34,560
moved by a ship

1657
01:14:39,410 --> 01:14:36,600
that almost flattened a couple police

1658
01:14:45,890 --> 01:14:42,890
and has corroborated in the documents

1659
01:14:48,830 --> 01:14:45,900
that the place was broken into

1660
01:14:51,110 --> 01:14:48,840
and that they didn't know who did it

1661
01:14:54,470 --> 01:14:51,120
very interesting case

1662
01:14:56,750 --> 01:14:54,480
14 Witnesses

1663
01:14:59,030 --> 01:14:56,760
but yet Sean Kirkpatrick when he does

1664
01:15:04,010 --> 01:14:59,040
his thing it's clear that he's starting

1665
01:15:07,729 --> 01:15:05,990
and he's getting the security of you

1666
01:15:10,669 --> 01:15:07,739
know people in line before he does the

1667
01:15:13,610 --> 01:15:10,679
historic study but if you would do this

1668
01:15:16,010 --> 01:15:13,620
dork study you would see the reality of

1669
01:15:17,810 --> 01:15:16,020
this situation

1670
01:15:20,930 --> 01:15:17,820
and the potential dangers something

1671
01:15:24,350 --> 01:15:20,940
could break in to a nuclear Silo without

1672
01:15:29,390 --> 01:15:26,630
and we have so many forms of electronic

1673
01:15:31,310 --> 01:15:29,400
evidence there the UFO came close to the

1674
01:15:33,169 --> 01:15:31,320
B-52 their Transmissions went out their

1675
01:15:35,870 --> 01:15:33,179
commute they couldn't communicate but

1676
01:15:37,729 --> 01:15:35,880
then they could again when the UFO left

1677
01:15:39,290 --> 01:15:37,739
and this isn't the only case where this

1678
01:15:40,910 --> 01:15:39,300
happens too I just don't have the time

1679
01:15:42,050 --> 01:15:40,920
to get to the other one because there's

1680
01:15:44,630 --> 01:15:42,060
another one

1681
01:15:47,050 --> 01:15:44,640
at one of these bases I think maybe a

1682
01:15:49,729 --> 01:15:47,060
year prior where the same thing happens

1683
01:15:52,070 --> 01:15:49,739
except when the UFO comes close to

1684
01:15:55,130 --> 01:15:52,080
communication in the actual missile silo

1685
01:15:57,970 --> 01:15:56,450
yeah

1686
01:16:00,169 --> 01:15:57,980
so

1687
01:16:03,470 --> 01:16:00,179
but if you were there and you want to

1688
01:16:05,689 --> 01:16:03,480
talk to shonker Patrick about it you can

1689
01:16:10,189 --> 01:16:05,699
you just have to make sure

1690
01:16:18,770 --> 01:16:12,050
your own plane

1691
01:16:18,780 --> 01:16:22,729
just letting you know

1692
01:16:26,689 --> 01:16:24,830
that you don't get any freebies

1693
01:16:28,750 --> 01:16:26,699
if you want to testify to Kirkpatrick

1694
01:16:31,669 --> 01:16:28,760
fine

1695
01:16:33,890 --> 01:16:31,679
but you better not be broke could you

1696
01:16:37,729 --> 01:16:33,900
could you imagine that somebody has the

1697
01:16:42,709 --> 01:16:41,030
but they can't tell Sean Kirkpatrick

1698
01:16:44,390 --> 01:16:42,719
because they're broke

1699
01:16:45,540 --> 01:16:44,400
and they can't pay for their hotel or

1700
01:16:48,649 --> 01:16:45,550
car

1701
01:16:51,050 --> 01:16:48,659
[Laughter]

1702
01:16:55,550 --> 01:16:51,060
if that person is you please contact me

1703
01:16:58,370 --> 01:16:55,560
if I convet you I will pay for it

1704
01:17:01,550 --> 01:16:58,380
all right guys enough is enough it's

1705
01:17:06,649 --> 01:17:01,560
time to get serious

1706
01:17:06,659 --> 01:17:08,990
yourself

1707
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:13,250
[Music]

1708
01:17:17,630 --> 01:17:15,350
that's right everybody we got our first

1709
01:17:19,490 --> 01:17:17,640
government sanctioned what the heck is

1710
01:17:21,770 --> 01:17:19,500
that video and it comes straight from

1711
01:18:15,970 --> 01:17:21,780
the Senate hearings the orb

1712
01:18:22,430 --> 01:18:19,970
it's interesting I'm glad we got it

1713
01:18:23,810 --> 01:18:22,440
I'm not sure you know this is an

1714
01:18:25,790 --> 01:18:23,820
interesting part here where you can kind

1715
01:18:27,530 --> 01:18:25,800
of see something coming out inside

1716
01:18:29,450 --> 01:18:27,540
I don't know if that's exhaust or what

1717
01:18:34,490 --> 01:18:29,460
that is but

1718
01:18:40,490 --> 01:18:36,470
you know it's kind of similar to the

1719
01:18:45,410 --> 01:18:43,130
it seems like some people thought it was

1720
01:18:47,390 --> 01:18:45,420
the same but I don't know

1721
01:18:49,610 --> 01:18:47,400
um I'd have to believe and I do believe

1722
01:18:52,010 --> 01:18:49,620
that there are a lot better videos out

1723
01:18:54,290 --> 01:18:52,020
there uh but they're just really not

1724
01:18:56,510 --> 01:18:54,300
going to share those if

1725
01:18:59,330 --> 01:18:56,520
um it's impressive I feel like if it's

1726
01:19:02,090 --> 01:18:59,340
impressive piece of video and they can't

1727
01:19:03,590 --> 01:19:02,100
tell if it's foreign or you know some

1728
01:19:05,990 --> 01:19:03,600
other

1729
01:19:08,330 --> 01:19:06,000
um entity or an intelligence they're not

1730
01:19:10,970 --> 01:19:08,340
going to share it you know because of

1731
01:19:13,250 --> 01:19:10,980
that even if it's a small likelihood

1732
01:19:14,630 --> 01:19:13,260
that it's foreign they don't

1733
01:19:16,310 --> 01:19:14,640
they don't want to put that out there

1734
01:19:18,530 --> 01:19:16,320
that's what I'm guessing I mean I don't

1735
01:19:22,310 --> 01:19:18,540
really know but that's what it seems

1736
01:20:03,649 --> 01:19:22,320
like anyways but we're not done

1737
01:20:03,659 --> 01:21:05,090
foreign

1738
01:21:13,370 --> 01:21:06,590
one just disappear

1739
01:21:13,380 --> 01:21:19,750
what are those

1740
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:26,030
up here

1741
01:21:31,780 --> 01:21:28,970
what the what are those

1742
01:21:46,550 --> 01:21:31,790
what the wow

1743
01:21:46,560 --> 01:22:10,200
here they come

1744
01:22:10,210 --> 01:22:22,209
[Music]

1745
01:22:22,219 --> 01:22:30,490
all right

1746
01:22:30,500 --> 01:22:37,050
what happened

1747
01:22:37,060 --> 01:22:42,229
[Music]

1748
01:22:48,229 --> 01:22:45,290
so that was what the heck is that it's

1749
01:22:51,890 --> 01:22:48,239
becoming increasingly more difficult to

1750
01:22:53,450 --> 01:22:51,900
find videos for whatever reason so I'm

1751
01:22:55,610 --> 01:22:53,460
not sure what the deal with that is it

1752
01:22:57,410 --> 01:22:55,620
almost makes me think that it's on

1753
01:23:00,290 --> 01:22:57,420
purpose you know so we can't see

1754
01:23:02,390 --> 01:23:00,300
civilian UFO videos I don't know

1755
01:23:05,030 --> 01:23:02,400
but it is a little bit more difficult

1756
01:23:08,750 --> 01:23:05,040
than it used to be on YouTube like just

1757
01:23:11,450 --> 01:23:08,760
type in YouTube UFO sightings uh UFO

1758
01:23:15,649 --> 01:23:11,460
sighting cell phone even or whatever

1759
01:23:18,290 --> 01:23:15,659
and scroll down through the options

1760
01:23:20,689 --> 01:23:18,300
slowly should click in your mind that

1761
01:23:25,550 --> 01:23:20,699
something isn't right that everything

1762
01:23:28,810 --> 01:23:25,560
you see is produced by somebody in some

1763
01:23:32,330 --> 01:23:28,820
way shape or form and you can't even see

1764
01:23:37,070 --> 01:23:32,340
civilian UFO cell phone videos

1765
01:23:39,530 --> 01:23:37,080
without a whole lot of effort to do it

1766
01:23:42,110 --> 01:23:39,540
and that's weird to me

1767
01:23:44,270 --> 01:23:42,120
that's very weird uh with that being

1768
01:23:47,030 --> 01:23:44,280
said uh I don't know I hope you enjoyed

1769
01:23:48,410 --> 01:23:47,040
the show uh we went over uh the

1770
01:23:50,450 --> 01:23:48,420
Kirkpatrick

1771
01:23:52,729 --> 01:23:50,460
um hearing I hope you got something from

1772
01:23:55,010 --> 01:23:52,739
the notes that I that I shared or the

1773
01:23:56,870 --> 01:23:55,020
things that I took away from it

1774
01:23:58,850 --> 01:23:56,880
um I hope you enjoyed the Minot Air

1775
01:24:00,649 --> 01:23:58,860
Force Base case I think that is a

1776
01:24:01,910 --> 01:24:00,659
fantastic case

1777
01:24:05,209 --> 01:24:01,920
um I hope you guys like when I cover

1778
01:24:07,010 --> 01:24:05,219
those old cases let me know if you do

1779
01:24:08,090 --> 01:24:07,020
um put it in the notes or in the chat or

1780
01:24:10,130 --> 01:24:08,100
something

1781
01:24:11,689 --> 01:24:10,140
um because I'll keep doing them for

1782
01:24:14,870 --> 01:24:11,699
different cases if you do enjoy it but

1783
01:24:18,229 --> 01:24:14,880
if you don't that's fine too

1784
01:24:19,790 --> 01:24:18,239
so that being said I had a great time

1785
01:24:20,990 --> 01:24:19,800
with you guys today

1786
01:24:24,410 --> 01:24:21,000
you know

1787
01:24:28,250 --> 01:24:24,420
I really enjoyed it you guys are a great

1788
01:24:30,830 --> 01:24:28,260
group of chatters you're always so kind

1789
01:24:33,410 --> 01:24:30,840
hit the like button

1790
01:24:36,770 --> 01:24:33,420
subscribe if you haven't

1791
01:24:40,790 --> 01:24:38,149
I don't know

1792
01:24:44,149 --> 01:24:40,800
I guess I'll

1793
01:24:48,110 --> 01:24:44,159
guess so

1794
01:24:49,729 --> 01:24:48,120
I'll see you next time yes I'll see you

1795
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:49,739
next time okay bye

1796
01:25:21,470 --> 01:24:50,770
foreign